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What Was the Difference Between Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish Vikings?

Today we refer to Viking Age Scandinavians generally as Vikings as though they were one group. Linguistic nuances over the modern use of the word Viking aside, the fact is that the historical group known as “Vikings” were not an entirely homogenous people. We know from various sources that from as early as the late 8th Century, large geographically related forms of identity, such as Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian existed. These are not to be confused with the notion of national identity of the modern era—there were no unified forms of government that we would consider a nation-state quite yet, although they would develop soon after that through the late middle ages. Further confounding the subject of identity among Viking Age Scandinavians are regional differences. The Norwegian group who sacked the city of Nantes in 843, for example, referred to themselves as Vestfaldingi, or Men of Vestfold. This tells us that there were also regional differences among various groups within the context of their broader geographic affiliations.

Why do we think of the Vikings as one people?

Our sources for the Vikings and their culture are an accumulation of chronicles and histories written first and foremost by religious scholars. Even the Muslim chroniclers framed their examinations of the Vikings within the cultural lens of Islam. The historian al-Yaqubi, in his geographical study of the Mediterranean, linked the Scandinavians from Sweden known as the Rus to those from Denmark who sacked Seville, in Spain. He wrote that the attack on Seville, in 844 A.D. was carried out by, “the Magus, who are called the Rus.”

Back then, the monotheistic religions of Christianity and Islam sought to unite the peoples of the world under one god. Their convictions about their faith created a perceptual lens about the world we would call “us against them.” The differences between outside groups were of little or no consequence because, ultimately, it was believed that they would eventually be converted and brought into the fold. Therefore, an extremely two-dimensional view of Viking Age Scandinavians was created, one which broadly described them all as “pagans.”

Fast forward to the 19th century when a renewed interest in the Viking Age began, the first scholars to approach the subject had little more than these religiously biased texts to go on. And let us not forget that the 19th century was still an age of belief, where Christian dogma was always (for the most part) universally accepted in Western Europe. What this allowed was for the same slanted view of Viking Age Scandinavians to persist for a time, which eventually led to the cultural perception that the Vikings were, in no uncertain terms, one people. We have since realized the inadequacy of this view. Unfortunately, the cultural understanding of the Vikings continues to propagate the one-people myth.

Further reinforcing the view that the Vikings were one people is the fact that from an archaeological perspective, there is a distinct culture that emerged at the beginning of the Viking Age that stood apart from its neighbors. Finds from Norway to Denmark to the Grobin Colony in what is today Latvia shows that there was a common culture shared across Scandinavia. Therefore, when we speak of the differences between the Norwegians, Swedes, and Danes of the Viking Age, we must be careful to understand that we are dealing with three regional identities united by a more significant geographical and cultural relationship. We must also be cognizant of the fact that these differences continued to evolve over the course of the Viking Age (it lasted three centuries). In 1066, the consensus date for the close of the Viking Age, the differences between the Danes and Norwegians and Swedes far exceeded the differences between them in 793, the consensus date for the opening of the Viking Age.

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So, What Was the Difference Between Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish Vikings?

Most of what we know about the Vikings both politically and culturally is derived from analyses of the Danes. Chroniclers such as Dudo, Alcuin, Saxo Grammaticus, Rimbert, Notker, among others, all focus nearly exclusively on the Danish people to form their conclusions. Therefore, we know much, much more about Viking Age Danes and their exploits than any other group. This is not surprising since the Danes were far more involved with the politics of the continent than the Norwegians and the Swedes.

In contrast to their cousins in Norway and Sweden, the Danes consistently appear to have been a regional, cultural, and military power from the mid-8th century onward. Even the Franks admitted in the Annals of Fulda that the Danes were the most powerful among the Northmen. As a political power, the Danes also had the closest thing to a monarchy of any of the three regions. Although they experienced political turmoil at the beginning of the 9th century, their rulers reigned consistently throughout the Viking Age, giving the Danes a political and societal strength the others did not have.

The Danes were also heavily involved in regional politics. The Royal Frankish Annals recorded that the Danes sent an emissary in 782 to Charlemagne’s court, along with other Saxon leaders, to hold formal political discussions in response to the massacre of Verden, in which the Franks captured, forcibly baptized, and murdered three thousand Saxon warriors just miles from the Danish border. Although there is no mention of what came of that meeting, it demonstrates that the Danes were heavily involved in the events of the time and did not just appear from nowhere.

Finally, the Danes developed far more ambitious plans for territorial conquest than any of the others. Their invasion of Britain, the establishment of the Danelaw, and the settlement of Normandy are a testament to their ambitions. Militarily, they are thought to have been more organized and disciplined, and probably better equipped, than their Swedish and Norwegian cousins.

It is against this body of knowledge about the Danes that we tend to compare the other Vikings. Unfortunately, we do not know all that much about the early political formations of Norway and Sweden. The Ynglingasaga, the saga of the Yngling Dynasty in Norway, purports to tell of the events that led to the establishment of Norway’s monarchy, but it offers very little in the way of substance about the structure of their society, the influence they exerted over neighboring peoples and the cultural backbone that drove their ambitions. We do know that the Norwegians were poised to conduct raids before their Danish cousins—they were the first to attack Ireland and Western France, and are thought to have carried out the raid on Lindisfarne—but ultimately did not exert the same influence as the Danes across Europe. An example of this is the invasion of Brittany in the late 9th Century where Norwegian Vikings took control of the regional center of Nantes. They held it for years until the Bretons expelled them, only to find a derelict city and no concerted effort to colonize the land as had been done in Britain and Normandy by the Danes.

Similarly, the Swedes, then known as Varangians, or Rus, were poised to discover and pillage new lands in the east along the Volga and Dnieper rivers. Their expeditions, however, were of a different sort than the Danes and Norwegians in the west. The goal of the Rus was primarily to trade (or so we think). They established long trade routes to the middle east and around the Black Sea and avoided much more than that until the late 9th century when, according to the Russian Primary Chronicle, the brothers Rurik, Sineus, and Truvor were “invited” by the Slavs to be their rulers. To this day, why this event occurred is unclear, but most historians believe this was a capitulation by the Slavs to years of raids. What is clear is that the entire passage that speaks of the Rus is concise, and from this moment on, the Rus who did move east to join the ruling class quickly assimilated into the Slavic culture and ceased to be what we would call “Vikings”.

We are lucky insofar as we know the Swedes were likely the most different among the three groups. The account of Ibn Fadlan during his embassy to the land of the Khazars demonstrates a few stark differences between the Rus and the Danes. For one, the Rus were allegedly covered in blue tattoos, which is not something that was commonly reported by Frankish scholars. The method of burial for their king, their grooming habits, among other things stand in contrast to their western cousins. Likewise, the Frankish chronicler Rimbert recounts the mission of Anskar to Sweden to convert them to Christianity where he describes the unusual and shocking religious rituals of the Swedes at Upsalla. This is evidence that from a cultural and spiritual standpoint, the Swedes were, for a time, somewhat different from their Danish and Norwegian cousins.

The Danes: The True Vikings?

Due to our general ignorance of the political and cultural structure of early Swedish and Norwegian society, it may be said that the real difference between the three groups is how much we know about them, especially early on. Archeologically speaking the three groups were very similar if not the same, and there existed a distinct shared culture, as evidenced by ship burials and colonies in all three regions, which stood apart from their neighbors (i.e. Saxons, Slavs, etc.). By that account, the Danes, as evidenced by the texts we have about them, are far and above the most familiar to us, and tend to drive our conception of what it was to be a Viking. From there, we can say that the Norwegians participated in Ireland and France, and made the great leap across the pond to Iceland, Greenland, and the Americas, but culturally and politically much of what we think we know about them is derived from our familiarity with the Danes. Likewise, much of what we think we know about the Swedes is a derivation of what we know about the Danes. Further reinforcing this notion is the idea that a more substantial number of the most exceptional Vikings of the day were Danish (there were, of course, great Vikings from Norway and Sweden as well). Therefore, dare I say, the Danes were the actual embodiment of what we refer to today as “Vikings”.

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  1. Rurik was from the ara Polen/Germany from the Rugi tribe (slavic tribe)
    Rugi tribe was also in Norway (westcoast south/west)
    Ynglingene(swedish ) clan had a norwegian branch
    many of those old tribes in Norway comes orginally from Finland

  2. the norwegian raided England first and from what i can see norwegian ships
    and skills comes in shipbuilding comes from Pomeria.
    The Danes trade with England metal before the viking era
    but the Swedes traded in silver to Europa

      1. I’m sorry to dissapoint you mate, but that is not true. Norwegian fishermen arrived in England centuries before denmark was founded. Independent Norwegian kingdoms and later a united norway raided England long before the danes too. The viking era literally started with the norwegian raid of a church on the island.

      2. I’m sorry to dissapoint you mate, but that is not true. Norwegian fishermen arrived in England centuries before denmark was founded. Independent Norwegian kingdoms and later a united norway raided England long before the danes too. The viking era literally started with the norwegian raid of a church on the island.

  3. Rubrik was from Sigtuna,Sweden.
    He was cheife, and The tribe som around Novogrod, askt him for help.
    They 4-5 chans that coulde not hold peace.
    He is sen as the ground er of russia . The Rurik- family holde the power in russian to 1600-1700. After that the Romanov comes

  4. There were definitely regional differences in Scandinavia, but archaeologically the culture was distinct from the Samic culture to the north and the Slavic culture to the East and South of the Baltic Sea. To the South of Danevirke the area was dominated by Saxons and Franks. On the British islands the culture was mainly Anglo-Saxon and can easily be distinguished from the viking settlements. The Vikings also spoke the same language called “danska tungu” (Danish tongue) and they used they used the same runic alphabet (futhark). Actually the futhark was completely changed in early viking age uniformly allover Scandinavia and viking settlements abroard. This would not have happened if they did not feel like being ethnically distinct from surrounding people.

    1. Thanks for stopping by my blog. You are correct that generally speaking the Scandinavian culture and language of the early Viking age are considered to be of the same ilk, and were distinctly different from the cultures of surrounding areas. My goal here was to speak to their differences as they were during the Viking Age, not similarities. I am, however, in the process on writing a blog on the Rus, and there I will speak to their similarities, particularly in regards to the Grobin colony on the eastern Baltic, which dates back to the 7th century, and became a Viking Age hub for the Rus’ expeditions east. The colony was identified as Scandinavian precisely because the artifacts discovered were virtually indistinguishable from other sites in Gotland. So stay tuned!

  5. Dear author, according to Primary Chronicle names of brothers of Rurik were not Ascold and Dir as you mentioned in the article but rather Sineus and Truvor. Thank you

  6. This is purely speculation and has zero historical accuracy. Talking about the Vikings like you know our history. Normandy taken by Danes? Rollo took Normandy and Rollo was Norwegian, Gange-Rolv was his name in Norwegian. Add the exploration of Iceland, Greenland and America to the fact that all the most famous Vikings were Norwegians and your argument falls extremely short. Not a single Danish viking reaches Leif Erikson (America), Rollo (Normandy), Harald Hardrada (the last Viking king), Ivar Gudrødsson (king of Dublin) etc to their knees so why are you claiming the Danes were the greatest? Seems very strange. You don’t have to look further than to the current countries to see how much of an impact the different countries made. Norway is the only country packed with Viking history. From the Stav-Churches , Runes, Viking museum with the only existing Viking ships to the very fjords where the skills and dominance of the sea came from. You must be Danish, that is the only explication to this ignorance?!

    1. Norway has a rich history, yes, but when it comes to what we know and understand about the Vikings, it is the Danes we know the most about, especially early on (i.e. late 8th century/early 9th century). As I said, the biggest difference between the three groups is generally what we know about each of them.

      To your point that Rollo was Norwegian, just because you say he has a dedicated name in Norwegian does not make him Norwegian. He was in fact known by many names, such as Rollon in French, but you don’t see me claiming that he was French, do you? (by the way, I’m French) Rollo was, as far as anyone knows, Danish. We know this because Dudo of Saint Quentin, the man who wrote the closest thing to a biography as was ever done for Rollo, says he was Danish, which was later expanded upon by Guillaume of Jumieges. The settlers of Normandy have always been considered to have been Danish.

      I agree with you that there were great names that emerged from Norway. You forgot to mention the Yngling Dynasty, which included Halfdan the Black, Gudrod the Hunter, etc. But the sheer number of names that have survived from Norway vs. Denmark are nowhere close. We have the names of far more Danes than Norwegians who had goings-on in England and Ireland and France, and even Spain. This is not to say Norway was not active – as you pointed out, the king of Dublin was Norwegian, Norwegians sailed to Iceland, and America – at the time, they simply were not recorded as well as the Danes by Christian Chroniclers. Outside the world of Snorri Sturluson, we don’t have much in the way of written record for the Norwegians, and those works were written long after the events they describe. Conversely, the Christian scholars who documented the Danes (who are listed in the article) were by and large there and living during the events they describe, and some shortly after.

      Also, I am not claiming that the Danes were the greatest. I simply said they are the ones we know the most about, and as far as modern representations of Vikings go, they are the people from whom we draw the most to make our conclusions, especially in the Anglophone world. This article has nothing to do with which group was better, and I have no stake in any sort of modern day nationalistic rivalry, which you very obviously do considering your statement, “Talking about the Vikings like you know our history…You must be Danish, that is the only explication to this ignorance?!” Your bias is palpable.

      1. What we know about the vikings, depends on where you are. My family has been in the heart of Norway for the past 1100 years at least. So have alot of other families around here. We know alot more about the Norwegian vikings than those cute little Danish ones. But I do love Danes, they are adorable and so nice.

      2. You don’t know more about vikings, because you live in Norway or South Africa.
        The fact is that Danish vikings were most known for their many raids and invasions. While Norwegians mainly were settlers.
        The vikings as we know as warriors og raiders were mainly Danes. Remember that there is found more coins fra England in Denmark than in England it self from the viking area.

      3. You live in Norway, so obviously you have access to more Norwegian history.
        There are far, far more recording of Danish vikings than there are of Norwegians ones. Most of we know about the Norwegian vikings are from Saga’s and the limited historical sites there are available.

        Due to Denmarks proximity to continental Europe and their scholars, we have far more historical sources to draw upon.
        There are more historical sites, burial mounds, intact ships, recorded history from multiple writen sources, than of Norwegian Vikings.

        Beside, Norway is basicly Denmark. You are alloweed to feel part of you’re legacy, since it’s mostly Danish 😉

      4. “Norway is basicly Denmark.” That is one of the most retarded things I have read. Idiot.

    2. Just a small correction to you saying that only Norway houses ship-finds – there has been found 5 ships in Denmark, in
      the Roskilde Fjord. They were sunk on purpose to be used as a barrier against enemy ships. Two of them built in Denmark, two built in Norway and one built in Ireland.

      15 years ago they found a 39 meter long warship as well, as they were prepairing the foundation for an extenstion to The Viking Ship Museum.

    3. Geir you could not be more accurate. I was also surprised reading that the Danes were the greatest Vikings. How come when it was the Norwegians that discovered Iceland, Greenland, Canada(North America) established Irish colonies and were a substantial component of Danelaw?

      Danish Vikings were exceptional so were the Norwegians and Swedes in their own ways.

    4. Agree. Norwegian Viking travelled farther and are more famous. There is Eric Thorvaldsen aka Eric Bloodaxe, son of Harald Fairhair. Blloodaxe is thought to have had short-lived terms as King of Norway and twice as King of Northumbria (c. 947–948 and 952–954). According to BBC History, “Eric Bloodaxe is probably one of the best-known names in Viking history, at least in the British Isles.” Sigurd the Crusader, Earl of Orkney and King of Mann and the Scottish Isles by 1089. He is otherwise famous for leading the Norwegian Crusade (1107–1110), earning the eponym “the Crusader”, and was the first European king to personally participate in a crusade. Sigurd was the embodiment of the Nordic warrior. Starting his military career from childhood with his father, Magnus, he lived a life of fighting and travelling, never losing a single battle. His efforts in Spain and the Holy Land did much to advance the cause of Christendom in re-capturing former lands and earned him the respect of all Christian monarchs as well as the eponym “the Crusader”. He met King Henry of England, the Doge of Venice, King Baldwin I of Jerusalem, the Emperor of Byzantium, and the Holy Roman Emperor. He returned from Constantinople by land, traveling through many lands, including Hungary and Serbia. His death in 1130 sparked 110 years of civil wars in Norway since he left only daughters. In the 19th century, Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson (a Norwegian writer who received the 1903 Nobel Prize in Literature “as a tribute to his noble, magnificent and versatile poetry, which has always been distinguished by both the freshness of its inspiration and the rare purity of its spirit”, becoming the first Norwegian Nobel laureate. Bjørnson is considered to be one of The Four Greats (De Fire Store) among Norwegian writers, the others being Henrik Ibsen, Jonas Lie, and Alexander Kielland. Bjørnson is also celebrated for his lyrics to the Norwegian National Anthem, “Ja, vi elsker dette landed”) an historical drama based on the life of the king, with incidental music,Suite de Sigurd Jorsalfar, composed by Edvard Grieg (Norway’s most famous composer and founder of the Norwegian nationalist school of music). There are many other like Ivar the Boneless, disabled son of Ragnar Lodbrok who, despite having to be carried on a shield, managed to conquer York)

  7. Interesting essay. With deepest respect, I’m not sure I’d concede that Saxo (1150-1220) was all that much closer to the viking age events he chronicled than Snorri (1179-1241). I remember there was a book written quite some time ago that argued that Iceland’s origins too were far more Danish than people think, but I don’t know if that argument has survived the test of time. It seems to me that Denmark does not fall as far short of Norway in terms of “viking history” as one of your commentators claims, especially if one counts places like Hedeby and other places that seem to have been Danish during the viking age at least . For example, I’m not aware of anything in Norway that compares with the Trelleborg style forts or the Danevirke .

    1. Thanks for stopping by my blog! You are right that Saxo is also quite removed, and by that account so is Dudo of Saint Quentin. But we do have sources from the day, such as the Royal Frankish Annals, the works of Rimbert, or the works of Notker, or the anonymously penned Annals of Angoulême, or the Annals of St Bertin, or the Annals of Fulda, all of which speak primarily to interactions with the Danes and were written approximately or very close to that time.

      As far as the theory that Iceland was more Danish than previously thought, I have no knowledge of this theory. I’ll have to look it up. I read something years ago that Irish Monks were actually the first to reach Iceland, but I have no idea where to find that again or if it holds any credence.

      1. Thanks for creating such a fascinating blog. I wish I could remember the name of that book but it was at least 35 years ago. My recollection is that it was in Icelandic and was taken seriously as a revisionist sort of scholarly work at the University of Iceland but of course regarded as completely at odds with the prevailing understanding of the settlement process. The next time I go through my notes from that era I will see if I can track it down. I suspect DNA technology that has come along since then might put that book’s arguments to a more rigorous test than was possible at the time. Keep up the good work!

      2. It is Saint Brendan, from Ireland, you want to conduct your research towards, regarding the Irish Monks.

    1. Ah yes, i read that one. I also like Robert Ferguson’s “Vikings” which is also a pretty good general overview of the Viking Age. A bit older, but still relevant, are Judith Jesch’s books on women in the Viking Age, and as far as revisionist history goes, I think she’s done some of the most credible work out there, although that’s my opinion, and there are a few other candidates who have also done tremendous work in that regard.

      Thanks for reading my blog!

  8. Well, this certainly does a lot to undermine white nationalist ideas about Northern Europeans being a single united people who are being threatened by an “invasion” of immigrants from North Africa and the Middle East…

  9. School Homework. Tasked to find out who the Vikings were and explore an aspect that I would be interested in.

  10. The vikings still live in Norway today, they are just more cunning. Norway is known to be expensive, tourists are sometimes shocked. In the old days we went to other countries and stole everything they had, but then we learned and got smarter. Now we lure them over here with the promise of fresh fjords and steep mountains and then we take everything they have.

  11. Were the Knights Templar too Danish?

    The red hair is associated with Celts, also Thor is said to have red hair, are Celts Vikings from Norway or Denmark?

    Danish were mostly pagan and Sun worshippers, Norwegian Christians and Swedes mostly atheist, is it so?

    1. Knights Templar were a religious order that existed centuries after the Viking Age. Their main base was in France.

      As for the red hair, to my knowledge it is unclear where exactly it came from and how it propagated across Northern Europe. There are theories, but none that can be definitively proven.

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    1. Generally no, the Finns were considered to be separate from the “Norse” world. Although, as pointed out by another commenter, there was probably a lot of intermixing going on, and there was some colonization by the Norse in Finland.

      Honestly, if you’re Finnish or of Finnish descendent, and you want to call yourself a Viking, go for it. Remember that the word “Viking” describes an action, like walking, running, or eating. So if a Finn at the time wanted to join a crew and go marauding, he would have been a “Viking” in every sense of the word.

      1. “Viking” is not an action, like walking, running or eating. “Viking” is from the Swedish word “vik” which means an inlet of the sea or a bay. The word “Viking” means where you ambushed with ships in sea inlets.

  13. Thanks for the article. It is very interesting. However, as a Finn, this still seems a bit ethnocentric, as the whole “Viking” history. When we talk of the Rus, we have very little of the actual information on who they were. The Russian chronicles tell that the Rus were Varjagians, just like some Varjagians are called Danes and others Swedes… This would imply the Rus were not Swedes, although the chronicles are not reliable as a source. They could be from Gotland but Gotland is NOT Sweden, the island only became part of Sweden in the 14th century.

    As for Rurik, the story of three brothers is a common motif so it is most likely a fabrication. It could be that Rurik did exist (brothers not) and the “invitation” was there to explain the fait compli, a subjugation after some power struggle. However, the article is inaccurate to the extent it talks of the slavs as inviting the Rus. Novgorod was not Slavic as this stage but the chronic talks of Slavic and Finnic tribes inviting the Rus. Genetically, Rurik has been confirmed to be N1c in his Y-DNA, based on tests done on apparent male descendants of Rurik (Russian princes). N1c is of course common in Finland and the particular sub-clade if Rurik is found in Finland in several places. Even though THE closest Scandinavian descendant in Y-Line for Rurik is at the moment found in Sweden, there is no way to say where did Rurik come from. Was he a descendant of a Finnic person that had scandinavized at some point? There was Finnic immigration to Sweden to Birka area in Viking Age. Was he from the Åland island, an island originally inhabited by the Finns but Scandinavian in the Viknig Age. This island was heavily depopulated in the Viking Age, maybe fitting to the narrative that Rurik took all his relatives to Ladoga. He could even have been from today’s Finland, there was lot’s of Finnish immigration to Uppland after the Black Death which could explain the presence of Rurik’s descendant in modern Sweden.

    Of course, the Rus were Norse, this is clear from their names and other evidence, but that does not mean that everything we know of Rus/Novgorod is Norse. For example, Ladoga/Aldeigjuborg was most likely founded by the Finnic, probably Vepsians. Name Aldeigjuborg comes from Aallokas, lake Ladoga’s old Finnish name, as does Ladoga (Russian has a tendency to switch Finnish syllabyses – Aallokas -> Aldoga -> Ladoga). Norse became first a merchant class in Aldeigjuborg and perhaps later an elite, before the Slavic influence overshadowed these both. Finnic elements (Vepsian, Tchud, Bjarmian) continued to be important element of Rus Novgorod until the 11th century slavicization pushed these to a) Estonia and b) Karelia (here forming the Karelian culture as we know it today) and probably the Rus armies that attacked Byzantium were a mix of Norse, Slav and Finnic elements. Finns by the way most likely acted as scouts, interpreters and middlemen in the eastern Route (See “Fibula, Fabula, Fact – Viking Age in Finland). This route, by the way, was established by the Frisians, not by the Swedes. Birka was a Frisian trade town established in the Lake Mälaren area, not a “Swedish” town, although of course Swedes also lived there.

    Even if I might sound pan-Slavic here, when Ahmad Ibn Fadlan was describing the “Rus”, was he describing the Norse, Slavic or perhaps Finnic elements of Kievan Rus?

    Sorry for the long and erratic post, I just wanted to point out that the 19th century ethnocentric view of the “Vikings” which was born after a desperate situation in Scandinavian countries (Sweden had lost many wars and ultimately their Finnish parts to Russia, Denmark had lost a major part of its territory to Germany and Norway was struggling under Danish and then Swedish domination), is not that simple. On the other hand, this more nuanced pictured is more lifelike and ultimately more interesting.

    1. I appreciate your well-considered thoughts on the subject. You are very correct that the current conception of the “Vikings” and “Norse” both in popular culture and in academia has been greatly affected by the themes and conditions of the 19th century. Many of the misconceptions of the past persist into the modern study of the Vikings.

      I would like to add that at the start of the Viking Age, there was a common culture shared by the various peoples of Scandinavia. The archeological record shows us a cultural consistency between settlements in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. Among these was Gotland, which as you said is not Sweden, but it did in the 8th century fit the common mold. From there, exiles formed the Grobin colony (in modern day Latvia), and eventually the Ladoga colony, all of which, from an archeological standpoint, can be described as Norse. These, I think, are the main evidences we have to support that the Rus were Norse.

      I do agree with you that from an ethnic standpoint, it’s a very different story. We know the “Vikings” intermixed with other populations, so it’s entirely possible that while Rurik may have been culturally Norse, or at least described as such, he may have been ethnically Finn, or a mixture of several ethnicities.

      It’s why I love this subject. Just when you think you know what you’re talking about, you discover a new angle, or a hole in the evidence. It’s a constant journey of discovery!

      I am glad you took the time to stop by my blog and strike up an interesting conversation.


  14. I have read that the ‘blue tattoos’ of the Swedes has now been believed to have come from far eastern people, And that it is more likely some warriors returned home with them. (The tooth etching and coloring being separate) I am curious to know where you found your sources that are used for your assertion that they were ‘covered’ in blue tattoos as it is vague in your paragraph.
    Also worth mentioning is that Muslim chroniclers found them ‘filthy’ because they used standing water to wash vs. clean running ‘pure’ water, even thought they actually washed more often.
    I enjoyed your comparisons and theories in this article. Thank you.

    1. Ali,

      It could be that blue tattoos were imports from somewhere else. In that paragraph, mention of the blue tattoos come from the Ibn Fadlan account, taken far in the East, and so technically in support of the importation idea. But we have only one source that says anything about them, and that source is put into question quite a bit. So the idea that they had blue tattoos is lofty at best, but hey, this is the Vikings and most of what we think we know is just guess work. Curiously, none of the Christian chroniclers, particularly Anskar, make any mention of the tattoos. Although, I could be wrong. I haven’t done a deep dive into those texts in a while. It would do me some good to do so. Thanks for stopping by my blog!

  15. […] The Editors of Encyclopædia Britannica, “Viking | people”. Encyclopedia Britannica Online. Accessed August 04, 2017. C.J. Adrien, “What Was the Difference Between Danish, Norwegian, Swedish Vikings?” Posted 01 July 2017.  ↩ […]

  16. I just found your blog this morning, and am fascinated. Thank you for providing such great detail on the Vikings! My question is a more personal one. About three years ago, I had my DNA tested through Before that, I knew that on my Mom’s side, both of her parents were born in southern Sweden and emigrated to the US as young adults (they did not meet until several years later). Since then, I (along with other relatives born in both Sweden and the US) have traced our family tree back to the 1700s, and all were born, lived and died in Sweden. Before I ask my question, I should tell you, in brief, that on my Dad’s side, my grandfather’s family was Dutch and my grandmother’s family was German, very close to the Netherlands. Interestingly, these two sides of the family, again, going back to the 1700s mostly lived within about an hour’s train ride of each other, but did not know each other as far as I know, at least until they emigrated to the US (in different generations). My question: My DNA, not surprisingly, showed 37% Skandinavian, but my second highest percentage was British Isles, at 22%! Western Europe was relatively low (as far as I recall without looking back, about 8%). But my question is about the 22% as there are literally no surnames back to 1700s at least, that are not Swedish or German/Dutch. Can you give me a brief explanation of the 22% British Isles? Thank you again for a most enlightening blog.

  17. This blog simply tells us what we know and What we don’t know. Why do some take it personally? It has nothing to do with You! Why is it so important whether specific vikings were norweigan, swedish or Danish? Their culture was probably very alike, but not anything like our culture now! Yes, vikings are very hip at the moment and you all want to feel like they are the descendents of the “true” vikings, I suppose? It is very clear that many of these comments come from a lot of swedish and norweigan people feeling buthurt that denmark is mostly famous for their vikings. But let’s get Real. None of us are no where near resembling vikings – thank god! This is sooo many years ago, and these stories of the vikings are great and people from the north can of course feel attachment to the stories since we have heard them as kids. I am Danish and I don’t give a crap whether Norway or Sweden had better vikings. You are welcome to take credit! I am personally very happy that we no longer live in that era, and I am sure that being the most violent and dominating people is not a trait you would admire today. Just because an ancestor was a badass viking, You are still a normal candy-crush-playing person living in 2018, who would fall backwards trying to lift a sword 🙂

  18. So Rollo’s own grandson is the one who had it written and claimed his grandfather (whom he had many people who actually knew him) was Danish. Then 200 years later a chronicler is the one who claimed he was Norwegian. What we do know of Vikings stems mostly from the Danes. Leif Erikson is famous for an accident, his father was a murderer and exile, I wouldn’t really call these great people in history. In the edda many of the characters are Danes including Ragnar. The Norwegian hype is coming from Vikings on History channel, which is fun but horribly inaccurate. Most the people commenting on this aren’t actually interested in the actual history of Vikings but the fantastic stories told from the saga. Norwegians were Vikings and warriors but they were mostly farmers. Swedes or Rus were traders and survivors. Danes were raiders, politicians, and explorers. For those who want to know look up Danish long-ships, Danish war axe, Danish shield walls. Please.

  19. It warms my heart to see so many comments. It shows at least historical interests in what I will presume is our shared heritage. The passion and anger in some of these comments shows whether right or wrong we still have fire in our blood. I was beginning to worry it was just me. Clan Duffy sept of McFie here. My clan was began by Norwegians taking Celtic wives and settling the area, becoming Norse-Gael. The truth fears no investigation now I’m off to throw my axe.

  20. Great post! Maybe you should settle this with a genetic test. The results are freakishly accurate and give great insights into migration theories. Here’s a website that provides reviews and offers on the various genetic tests available in the market.

  21. very interesting article. I have beeb researching my past and have found that my heritage is from Norway, then I turn another corner and find that it is Denmark, and yet another and I am German. Ancestory is very tricky, especially when so many of the countries have mixed ethnicity. I enjoy learning this stuff. Yes, I love watching the Vikings on the History channel, even though I know it is historical fiction. I am from the USA and our history does not go back very far, so I look for my ancestory for entertainment. Keep writing.

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